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 ⇤ ← Revision 29 as of 2009-09-11 01:30:18 → Size: 12071 Editor: was Comment: ← Revision 31 as of 2009-09-11 01:51:27 → ⇥ Size: 13716 Editor: was Comment: Deletions are marked like this. Additions are marked like this. Line 244: Line 244: == j-invariants of CM elliptic curves ==The table as is here is silly: http://wstein.org/Tables/cmj.htmlHowever, a generalization of it to give CM j-invariants over various number fields would be nice. It would probably easy to collate such data if one could find it. I think David Kohel might have such data on his site (?). == Pari table of Optimal elliptic curves ==Pointless -- get rid of -- was only useful when I used PARI a lot. == Optimal quotients whose torsion isn't generated by (0)-(oo) ==http://wstein.org/Tables/non_zeroinf_tor.txtThis should be redone, but in more generality and systematically. To do this calculation basically all that is needed that is nontrivial is a way to compute the order of the image of 0-oo efficiently. That is best done numerically. The idea of the algorithm:  1. Compute $L(E,1)$ and $\Omega_E$ as floating point real numbers.   2. If the period lattice is rectangular let $\omega = \Omega_E / 2$; otherwise, let $\omega = \Omega_E$.  3. The order of the image of $(0)-(\infty)$ is equal to the denominator of the rational number $L(E,1)/\omega$.(The reason is because the image of $(0)-(\infty)$ can be interpreted as a period integral and so can $L(E,1)$, and they're the same, basically.)Here's code:{{{def order_of_zero_inf(E):    R = E.lseries().L_ratio()    if E.period_lattice().is_rectangular():        R /= 2    return R.denominator()}}}note that this algorithm is far better than the one I ran to make the above table (http://wstein.org/Tables/non_zeroinf_tor.txt), which I think was a modular symbols algorithm.

Specific Tables/Projects

The misc tables are listed here:

The Harvard URL is the best, since the http://wstein.org/Tables has none of the cgi-bin script dynamic data.

Component Groups of J0(N)(R) and J1(N)(R)

This function computes the J_0(N) real component groups.

def f(N):
M = ModularSymbols(N).cuspidal_subspace()
d = M.dimension()//2
S = matrix(GF(2),2*d,2*d, M.star_involution().matrix().list()) - 1
return 2^(S.nullity()-d)

For J_1(N) it is:

def f(N):
M = ModularSymbols(Gamma1(N)).cuspidal_subspace()
d = M.dimension()//2
S = matrix(GF(2),2*d,2*d, M.star_involution().matrix().list()) - 1
return 2^(S.nullity()-d)

Future extension: one could replace Gamma1(N) by GammaH(N,...). One could also do the new subspace.

And note Frank's conjecture:

Conjecture (Frank Calegari):

Let m = #odd prime factors of N +  {1, if N = 0 mod 8
{0, otherwise.
Then the component group is isomorphic to (Z/2Z)^f, where f = 2^m - 1.

the above conjecture is wrong, but the following matches our data (up to level N<=2723):

Conjecture (Boothby-Stein):
Let m = #odd prime factors of N -  {1, if N != 0 mod 8
{0, otherwise.

Then the component group is isomorphic to (Z/2Z)^f, where f = 2^m - 1, unless N=1,2,4, in which case the component is

Soroosh -- the prime level case is known. See Calegari <insert link> which *just* cites Agashe and Merel (http://wstein.org/home/wstein/days/17/Merel_Laccouplement_de_Weil_entre_le_sous-group.pdf -- page 12).

Cuspidal Subgroup

Computing the structure of the cuspidal subgroup of J0(N) and J1(N) (say).

def cuspidal_subgroup_J0(N):
J = J0(N)
I = J.cuspidal_subgroup().invariants()
# maybe pickle J
return I

def cuspidal_subgroup_J1(N):
J = J1(N)
I = J.cuspidal_subgroup().invariants()
# maybe pickle J
return I

BUT WAIT -- isn't there an a priori formula for this structure/order? Yes -- Ligozat, but not really -- that gives only rational cuspidal subgroup, and might be just as hard.

Anyway, I'm computing a few of these here, as a test of the modular symbols code, etc., since this is easy:

Discriminants of Hecke Algebra

Computation of discriminants of various Hecke algebras.

• URLs:

Amazingly, it seems that there is "discriminants of Hecke algebras" implementation in Sage! Here is a straightforward algorithm:

1. The input is the level N.

2. Chose a random vector v in the space M of cuspidal modular symbols of level N.

3. Compute the sturm bound B.

4. Compute the products T_1(v), ..., T_B(v), and find a basis b_i for the ZZ-module they span.

5. Find Hecke operators S_1, ..., S_n such that S_i(v) = b_i. (This is linear algebra -- inverting a matrix and a matrix multiply.)

6. Compute the determinant det ( Trace(S_i * S_j) ). That is the discriminant. This also gives a basis for the Hecke algebra, which is very useful for lots of things.

Note: See http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6768 for very slow code for computing a basis for the Hecke algebra.

Here is a more complicated algorithm, but it might suck because of hidden denseness!

1. The input is the level N.

2. If N is divisible by a prime p^3 and X_0(N/p^3) has positive genus, then the discriminant is 0, as one can see by taking images of forms of level N/p^3.

3. I think the above is an if and only if condition for when the discriminant is 0. See I think Coleman-Voloch.

4. The actual algorithm now.
1. Find a random Hecke operator t such that the charpoly of t has nonzero discriminant.

2. Choose a random vector v in the space of cuspidal modular symbols.

3. Let B be the Sturm bound.

4. Compute the images T_n(v) for n up to the Sturm Bound.

Compute a table of semisimplications of reducible representations of elliptic curves

Ralph Greenberg asked for a specific example of an elliptic curve with certain representation, and Soroosh and William found it. In order to do this, we developed a (mostly) efficient algorithm for computing the two characters eps and psi that define the semisimplication of an elliptic curve's Galois representation. This project is to fully implement the algorithm, then run it on curves in the Cremona database and all primes for which the Galois representation is reducible. There is relevant code here: http://nt.sagenb.org/home/pub/19/ and http://nt.sagenb.org/home/pub/20/

In fact, one can use the algorithm mentioned above to compute the semisimplication for any modular abelian variety! It would be good to do this for say every J0 modabvar of level up to say 3200 (since we have an ap table up that far): http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/db/modsym/

Dimensions of modular forms spaces

Currently http://wstein.org/Tables/dimensions/ has a couple of table with a kludgy and completely broken. These tables are nicer: http://wstein.org/Tables/dimensions-all.html. I think a static table that can do Gamma0, Gamma1, and character for all levels up to 100000 and weight 2 would be good to have. But its value would only be in having it easily usable, since there is no value in asking for an individual space. Anyway, compute the data. It would in fact by a good idea. Also, for each character, we should compute the dimensions of the modular, eisenstein spaces and the new cuspidal, and p-new cuspidal subspaces for each p dividing the level. The following session illustrates that in fact that would be quite valuable to have pre-computed in a table:

sage: G = DirichletGroup(21000)
sage: time C = G.galois_orbits()
Time: CPU 2.21 s, Wall: 2.52 s
sage: time z = [(e[0], dimension_cusp_forms(e[0], 2)) for e in C]
Time: CPU 8.86 s, Wall: 9.79 s

I (=William) started a small calculation going of dimensions of spaces with character for weights <= 16 and for each space computing the dimension of the cuspidal, eisenstein, new, and p-new for each p parts. It's here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/db/days17/dimension_character/

Compute the exact torsion subgroup of J0(N) for as many N as possible

See http://nt.sagenb.org/home/pub/21/ for some work in this direction by Stein and Yazdani.

Characteristic polynomial of T2 on level 1 modular forms

See this table: http://modular.fas.harvard.edu/Tables/charpoly_level1/t2/

I have a straightforward algorithm to recompute these, which I'm running here:

Characteristic polys of many Tp on level 1

Next, see this table, which gives "Characteristic polynomials of T2, T3, ..., T997 for k<=128"

That exact range can likely be easily done using modular symbols.

There is another algorithm, that uses the matrix of T_2 (which I'm computing and caching above!), which can compute the charpolys of many other T_p. It's described here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/days/17/highweight/, along with a magma implementation (need to port to Sage). Thus it might be nice to implement this and run it, and get say all T_{p,k} for p,k \leq 1000.

Arithmetic data about every weight 2 newform on Gamma0(N) for all N<5135 (and many more up to 7248)

This table is challenging to replicate/extend, but easy to move over. It would likely be better to continue our aplist computations, etc. up to 10000 (they only went to 3200 so far), and also take our saved decompositions and compute other data. Anyway, this table is more of a challenge.

Systems of Hecke Eigenvalues: q-expansions of Newforms

This is the point of these tables from last summer, which are much more comprehensive.

Also, Tom Boothby has made some tables of traces of these.

Eigenforms on the Supersingular Basis

I think for a paper with Merel.

A close analogue of the above table could likely be extended/recomputed using the SupersingularModule code. However, the first problem is:

sage: X = SupersingularModule(97)
sage: X.decomposition()
Traceback (most recent call last):
...
NotImplementedError

So some love and care would be needed to compute these decompositions. But this should be done. And then would be pretty similar data to that table. It would be straightfoward (I think) to get the same data is in http://modular.fas.harvard.edu/Tables/supersingular.html once the decompositions are computed.

Elliptic curve tables

I think the following can be safely ignored since they are already easily available from Cremona now-a-days:

# [NEW] PARI Tables of Cremona Elliptic Curves
# [NEW] Isogeny class matrices for elliptic curves of conductor <= 40000
# [NEW] Lratios L(E,1)/Omega_E for elliptic curves of conductor <= 40000 

This can be ignored:

# Armand Brumer and Oisin McGuinness's table of elliptic curves of prime conductor less than 108 (or try the local mirror)

This should be made officially part of our database in some way, possibly including better wrapping in Sage:

# The Stein-Watkins database of elliptic curves of conductor up to 108 and of prime conductor up to 1010.

The following table was "fun", but I don't think anybody ever used it, so maybe forget it: http://wstein.org/Tables/e_over_k/

Congruence modulus and modular degree for elliptic curves

It would be very valuable and possibly challenging to recompute and extend to level 1000 the data here: http://wstein.org/Tables/degphi_table/

There's an interesting conjecture there as well, which could possibly be refined.

Here's how to do the computation:

sage: E = EllipticCurve('54a')
sage: E.modular_degree()         # trivial
6
sage: E.congruence_number()      # hard in general
6

I actually started a computation of the same data that goes a bit further than the old table here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/db/congnum/

However quite a few levels up to 1000 remain: [558, 592, 594, 624, 650, 657, 672, 702, 704, 720, 738, 744, 756, 758, 759, 760, 762, 763, 765, 766, 768, 770, 774, 775, 776, 777, 780, 781, 782, 784, 786, 790, 791, 792, 793, 794, 795, 797, 798, 799, 800, 801, 802, 804, 805, 806, 807, 808, 810, 811, 812, 813, 814, 815, 816, 817, 819, 822, 825, 826, 827, 828, 829, 830, 831, 832, 833, 834, 836, 840, 842, 843, 845, 846, 847, 848, 849, 850, 851, 854, 855, 856, 858, 861, 862, 864, 866, 867, 869, 870, 871, 872, 873, 874, 876, 880, 882, 885, 886, 888, 890, 891, 892, 894, 895, 896, 897, 898, 899, 900, 901, 902, 903, 904, 905, 906, 909, 910, 912, 913, 914, 915, 916, 918, 920, 921, 922, 923, 924, 925, 926, 927, 928, 930, 931, 933, 934, 935, 936, 938, 939, 940, 942, 943, 944, 946, 948, 950, 954, 955, 956, 957, 960, 962, 964, 965, 966, 968, 969, 970, 972, 973, 974, 975, 976, 978, 979, 980, 981, 982, 984, 985, 986, 987, 988, 989, 990, 994, 995, 996, 997, 999]

j-invariants of CM elliptic curves

The table as is here is silly: http://wstein.org/Tables/cmj.html

However, a generalization of it to give CM j-invariants over various number fields would be nice. It would probably easy to collate such data if one could find it. I think David Kohel might have such data on his site (?).

Pari table of Optimal elliptic curves

Pointless -- get rid of -- was only useful when I used PARI a lot.

Optimal quotients whose torsion isn't generated by (0)-(oo)

This should be redone, but in more generality and systematically. To do this calculation basically all that is needed that is nontrivial is a way to compute the order of the image of 0-oo efficiently. That is best done numerically. The idea of the algorithm:

1. Compute L(E,1) and \Omega_E as floating point real numbers.

2. If the period lattice is rectangular let \omega = \Omega_E / 2; otherwise, let \omega = \Omega_E.

3. The order of the image of (0)-(\infty) is equal to the denominator of the rational number L(E,1)/\omega.

(The reason is because the image of (0)-(\infty) can be interpreted as a period integral and so can L(E,1), and they're the same, basically.)

Here's code:

def order_of_zero_inf(E):
R =  E.lseries().L_ratio()
if E.period_lattice().is_rectangular():
R /= 2
return R.denominator()

note that this algorithm is far better than the one I ran to make the above table ( http://wstein.org/Tables/non_zeroinf_tor.txt), which I think was a modular symbols algorithm.

days17/projects/presagedays/discussion (last edited 2010-07-12 07:39:51 by was)